BODY VS. BODIES

I was listening to Marquis Laughlin reading Philippians 2-4 at BibleGateway.com, and heard two very interesting phrases: "our lowly body"; and "His glorious body."(Philippians 3:20-21)

At this point, I recalled hearing (or reading) a commentary on Paul's use of the singular form of the word "body" here. This is very significant (if you're a preterist) because Paul is referring to a singular noun in the first-person plural sense, i.e., "our lowly body"-- not bodies!

Hmmm. "Our... body" sounds as though to say we Christians are all part of the same body (of Christ).  I'll buy that.

In Ephesians 3:4-6, Paul says:

"When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel."

Would Paul be implying that, collectively, the Body of Christ (the church) would be like His glorious body? Would he be referring to a spiritual body instead of a physical one, in that case?

Just a thought.

CRAZY FOR THEOLOGY

Yes, it's true: I am a closet Preterist, with Futurist tendencies.

That's a good thing, right?

I mean, the possibility that I'm wrong about theology is far greater than the possibility that I'm right. And I'd rather admit I was wrong, than go on thinking I was right, when I wasn't. Does that sound crazy?

As long as Scriptures come up that seem to suggest if not mandate a bodily resurrection, I'm not ruling it out. There are plenty of futurists out there who will lend a credible warning to us followers of Christ who think maybe Jesus came in 70 AD as He said he would, that we're not Christians!

I believe in the Second Coming of Christ! I just think He came already. He is here!

Atheists use Jesus' own words "against" Him. They say, oh, He said He would return "soon." Oh well, I guess He forgot to come! Here we are, 2000 years later (almost), and He still hasn't "come again." Then they assert, that's why I'm not a Christian!

Late night musings.

HERE I STAND... NO, WAIT!

Another Scripture which ruptures my infallible belief in Preterism is Matthew 10:28.

"And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.[f1]"(Matthew 10:28 ESV)

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[1] 10:28 Greek Gehenna

Hmmm. "Destroy both soul and body." Sounds like a physical body got thrown into eternal punishment (Gehenna).

GOOD NEWS

I've been seriously looking into this whole preterist thing. I mean, being told I am in heresy, and I am embracing a false (another) gospel is bad, bad, bad. I have done everything in my power to re-educate myself in the ways of futurism, i.e., watched a Greg Laurie sermon on the Second Coming of Christ, and read Calvin's Institutes about the resurrection of the flesh. This, and praying that God would deliver me from false doctrine must be a good start on the road to repentance, recovery, and reform, right?

Well, I guess it's working. Now I'm scared out of my wits to even "go there" anymore. Blood really is thicker than water!

Gosh, now what am I? A confused, recovering (full) Preterist. May the God of the Bible have mercy on me and all those nasty full-preterists out there on the Internet. Aarrrgh!

THE NEW WORLD OUT-OF-ORDER

For those of us who have been monitoring, albeit informally, the progress of the New World Order (a la Alex Jones and others), I happily stumbled upon an article on Townhall by Victor Davis Hansen, the esteemed historian/farmer who can melt petrified wood with his liquid "dulcet-toned" voice on Hugh Hewitt's radio show.

The article, "The New Old World Order," describes a host of problematic tendencies by independent nations to revert to their ancient rivalries and hostilities, in spite of the best intentions of the Bilderberg Group and others who were hoping (and planning) for a nice, clean world takeover.

Oh, well. I guess we will have to reform human nature (wink, wink, nod, nod) before that takes place. Until then, we civilized Christians and others will have to settle for World War III.

THE GOOD OLD DAYS

Can I wax nostalgic for a minute or two?

I was just thinking about how nice it was to be "self-sufficient," when I had a full-time job with benefits. Then I am reminded of the restrictions on those perks which I enjoyed "under the whip" of my employer. No offense intended, just a comment on reality.

Now I am haunted by another reality: starting over (by God's grace). I am not feeling assured at all about my future, except for my salvation through Jesus Christ. My economic situation is taking a lot of my mental energy these days, and it can be taxing (pun intended).

While I enjoy the "freedom" of unemployment to a certain extent (sleeping in 'till 6am, eating lunch when I'm hungry-- not on a schedule, driving around looking at the world around me instead of being stuck inside of a building all day), that joy is tempered by financial considerations. Like I said, I am enjoying it while I can.

I do not want to be herded in with the "moochers" of society. I do have some decent prospects for employment. But, rightly so, I am feeling a twinge of guilt about not pursuing it as hard as I should.

FROM ROCK-AND-ROLL TO THE ROCK

Here is a link to Preterist TV, where you can watch Marty Angelo give a very thorough testimony to Steve Schneider ("Steve Saint John") on Steve's "Prison Outreach Worldwide (POW) Ministries" radio program.

There, now that I've linked all that stuff up, I can enjoy the rest of the videos. Marty has a very peaceful demeanor and warm tone in his conversation with Steve. Not to brag, but my connection to Steve is that he came to speak at my church's singles ministry class for four weeks while our regular teacher went on a very adventurous vacation. Steve was also the keyboardist for the Christian group Petra back in 1979-80. Both are awesome, God-using speakers.

I highly recommend both of their ministries' resources.

WORLDVIEW RETOOL

The itch to blog must be scratched. One cannot resist the urge, especially while listening to audio podcasts of the Covenant Creation Conference on Preterist Radio.

I just got through watching The Obama Deception and Endgame, both produced by Alex Jones.

Being unemployed affords me the "luxury" of watching and listening to worldview-changing media which, I pray, will equip me to serve the Lord better.

GOOD NEWS... RIGHT?

"For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until He comes."(I Corinthians 11:26 ESV)

I searched for "1 corinthians 11:26" on Eschatology.org , and found this article by Don Preston, who I believe is the driving force (or one of them) behind the current Preterist Reformation. It is called, "Until He Comes."

Incidentally, as I began listening to a podcast of Ed Stevens on Preterist Radio, I thought of the term Preterist Reformation. To my delight, Mr. Stevens used (if not coined) that very concept in his program! Well, you know the old saying about thinking alike...

After reading the section in Until He Comes on Christ's second coming and the Lord's Supper, I now know that Mr. Preston has indeed respectably and credibly defended the preterist interpretation of this passage.

Wow!

REFORMED PRETERIST

The nice thing about having a blog is you can post a well-(or at least, much-)thought out piece about whatever you want.

In this post, I want to register my concern about my own view of the Second Coming of Christ.

I understand and embrace the preterist view of Christ coming in judgment in 70AD. Jesus did say,"Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.(Matthew 24:34)

Amen.

Yet, I am currently struggling with the Scripture in 1 Corinthians 11:26.

"For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes. "

Well, since He came in judgment on Jerusalem (and the Old Testament/Covenant) in 70 A.D. , then why do we still celebrate the Lord's death if He came already?

Hmmm... Makes me wonder how preterist I can be. This is a wonderful dilemma because it forces me to search the Scriptures, my heart, and other people's insights into what the Word of God really teaches. Of course, my prayer is that the Holy Spirit would guide me to all truth, in Jesus name.

I go back to the cross, back to the old Protestant Reformation mantra: reformata et semper reformanda.

Reformed and always reforming.

SOUND BITE OF THE WEEK

Here is a really decent video of "President" Barak Obama talking with Turkish university students in Istanbul on April 7, 2009. I was tripped up by his comment in minute 34:00 of the video:

"And I also think that people were encouraged that somebody like me who has a background of living overseas, who has Muslims in his family -- you know, that I might be able to help to build bridges with other parts of the world."

Since when did the constitution warn us not to elect a person who lived overseas? He knows what the real controversy is about: not his family's mobility and religion; but, about his own truthfulness.

Sorry, this video does a lot of damage to his credibility in my eyes. You can watch it at:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/video/The-President-Talks-with-Students-in-Turkey

You can read the transcript at:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-barack-obama-student-roundtable-istanbul

ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND

I don't know whether this post will contribute to the discussion, or detract from it. But I feel the need to rectify my perspective.

It's all about Jesus, not my eschatology.

I searched for and found a decent video with the song, "On Christ the Solid Rock I Stand." All praise and glory go to God.

Here is an excellent treatment (rendition) by Crystal Lewis. Enjoy, and praise the Lord.

CAN WE TALK?

The reason I named this post, "Can We Talk?" is that I feel the need to clarify my position on eschatology. I read Acts 1:11 this morning. It shook my fledgeling preterist worldview to its core. I am still working through the rubble. It is the account of Jesus' ascension into heaven.

"Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing into heaven? This Jesus who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."

I don't see how it could be any clearer. I know and believe the preterist interpretation of the Lord's predictions about his coming again in judgment on Jerusalem in 70 AD. But this verse says something in addition to that.

I have seen and read William Bell's fine article, "He Came In Like Manner: A Study of Acts 1:11." But I fail to embrace his position without reservations.

Perhaps I need a little more enlightenment. I pray for such, in Jesus' name, amen.

300: A FINITE NUMBER... RIGHT?

Well, intrepid blog readers. I have achieved my 300th post!!! And here it is:

I am listening to Sam Frost discuss his paper, "Full Preterism and the Problem of Infinity." In it, he challenges the ubiquitous concept of the infinity of God. I have held to this concept virtually all of my life! No, I did not comprehend it. But I did apprehend it.

Preterism, for the unwashed masses, is an eschatological viewpoint that says the prophecies which Jesus and others put forth in the Bible came to pass in 70 A.D. regarding His return and the end of the age (Old Testament or Covenant). "Full Preterism" says that Jesus returned in judgment to Jerusalem and will not be back physically.

Frost has his own show on Preterist Radio. It is called, oddly enough, "The Sam Frost Show."

Because of a conversation I had with a friend who was instrumental in persuading me to consider the claims of the Bible in light of full preterism (FP), I started reading Frost's paper and listening to his shows on this subject. Therefore, I have been contemplating this Greek concept of infinity.

"Infinity" has historically permeated the doctrines of the Christian faith. Indeed, it has always explained the unexplainable to me. But now, a challenge from Sam Frost has awoken those of us who are listening.

As a Christian, I must take infinity with a grain of salt. It means, according to Frost and others,"unbound." Of course I agree.

The controversy is over "the end of history," or "the end of time," because of its prima facie disagreement with preterism.

It is a commonly held belief that Jesus will return to earth, physically, to consummate "all things." He will, according to the majority opinion in the Church, bring an end to time and usher in the eternal reign on earth of His Heavenly Kingdom.

But in the FP (full preterist) scheme, it is an interesting concept. On the one hand, I hold to a fulfilled interpretation of Scripture. On the other hand, I see Frost's logic and have to agree with it.

Well, does this mean that Christ will return... again? Physically?

I think not. But this is a paradox (apparent contradiction) par excellence for us mere mortals. After all, He reigns... NOW!!! He is here ("I am with you always..." Matthew 28:20)

Frost makes a very credible defense, or apologetic, for his position-- which was also that of Athanasius, a church father. I feel he deserves a hearing before any of us passes final judgment on this very interesting viewpoint worthy of our consideration. Jesus will be happy to lead us to all truth.(John 16:13)

LIVE-BLOGGING WITH RC SPROUL

It has been my wont of late to listen to RC Sproul online (Ligonier.org) while blogging. This is a tolerable addiction, in my view.

For some reason, hearing "the dulcet tones" of Dr. Sproul's voice while expounding some deep theological subject is stimulating to my creative processes, in this case, for blogging.

Well, how much weirder does it get? I am glad you asked.

I also discovered a cool typing tutorial online called TypingWeb. I could say that one item on my "bucket list" is to learn typing. I can now practice the "home row keys" as of earlier today. Woo hoo!

More Internet merriment must surely follow this...

FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY!!!

As a public service to all of my readers who use Microsoft Outlook 2003/2007 and Hotmail (aka Windows Live Hotmail), I am pleased to post these links to my long-awaited solution to the perennial dilemma of connecting Outlook to Hotmail.

First, there is the solution: Use a Windows Live Hotmail Account in Outlook

And the fix: Outlook Hotmail Connector 32-bit

I have tried for years, but failed (not me, of course-- Windows, heh, heh!)

I am awestruck by the versatility and ability of Outlook to manipulate these static pieces of electronic communication with massive capability and pinpoint precision.

Gosh! What I was missing!

Next post: real worldview issues that matter to you... like the World Cup 2010!

BOSTON VS. LA

Between posts about worldview issues, I am watching the final agonizing minutes of Game Seven of the NBA Finals on ESPN on ABC. Agonizing because I want the Boston Celtics to win, but the LA Lakers are being annoyingly good in the clutch. Kobe Bryant is on the FTL, and... making them. Darn!

Boston (Ray Allen) misses, and LA makes it. Throw away the script. It won't help. Aaaugh.

300... ALMOST

Just a side note: I am closing in on 300 blog posts!!!

Count 'em. No, wait. Blogger does it for me...

Now on to significant stuff.

RANDOM

Okay, the moment of inspiration drove me (led me?) to this post. Now what?

I am preparing to start up new courses in my program of online study toward certification in computer usage and applications. Well, well, well.

I am also listening to RC Sproul at Ligonier.org. Some days, he has the balm of Gilead in his voice and teaching. Jesus sent us His own Spirit, "another comforter," and He does His work effectually indeed!

IT'S A RACE!

Having worked on the 2010 U.S. Census project since March, I have since modified my stance on "race" and ethnicity. I used to take it all in stride, this idea of black and white "races." Then I became reactionary through Answers in Genesis and their teaching the "human race" as the only race. Fair enough. I defended it.

Then I began thinking about the U.S. Census questionnaire and its use of the term race, which was extremely confusing to not a few respondents. Many were incensed at the questions.

To simplify things (for myself anyway), I like to call race another word for ethnicity because that is what it historically boils down to. The Israelite "race," for example, was not permitted by God to intermarry with other nations, or races, in the Old Testament. This would pollute the purity of God's people and compromise their position in His economy and kingdom. I may conclude that God was very concerned about race back then.

In the New Testament economy, God has allowed the progressive dilution of races to the point where most marriages are of necessity mixed-race marriages. Because Jesus/God gave the apostle Peter the vision of clean and unclean animals to eat (which signified Jews and Gentiles being declared equally valid and eligible for salvation in the New Testament economy), we may conclude that God has removed that restriction because in Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor Greek... (Galatians 3:28)

This begs the question: any questions?